In this special in-betweenersode, Brooke explores the Mojave Desert with Natalie and Coral from Planet People Podcast. Discover why California’s “desert heart” is one of North America’s most biodiverse ecosystems, the surprising Raven-Tortoise-Human conflict, the complex relationship between renewable energy and conservation, and inspiring wins like the Chuckwalla National Monument and Western Joshua Tree Conservation Act.
What You’ll Learn
- Why the Mojave Desert is a critical carbon sink fighting climate change
- How closing dumpster lids saves desert tortoises from raven predation
- The hidden costs of solar farm expansion on pristine desert habitat
- Innovative solutions: laser technology, captive breeding programs, and rewilding initiatives
- Why “killing your lawn” creates wildlife corridors in your own backyard
- How to apply desert conservation lessons to your local community
Key Timestamps
- [00:00] Introduction and guest backgrounds
- [03:25] Desert Ecology 101: Why the Mojave matters
- [08:15] Biggest threats facing the desert today
- [10:30] The Raven-Tortoise-Human conflict explained
- [20:00] Renewable energy vs. habitat conservation
- [25:40] Recreation, off-roading, and land management
- [31:20] The Kill Your Lawn rewilding movement
- [33:20] Bright spots: Captive breeding and reintroduction
- [36:25] Chuckwalla National Monument and Joshua Tree Conservation Act
- [40:45] Key takeaways and how to take action
Take Action
- Secure trash and close dumpster lids to reduce wildlife conflicts
- Stay on designated trails when visiting desert areas
- Consider replacing your lawn with native plants
- Support Mojave Desert Land Trust and Living Desert Zoo
- Look for conservation opportunities in your own backyard
Meet the Guests
Natalie Cibel – Wildlife biologist, Mojave Desert tortoise specialist, and founder of Planet People Podcast, a platform for community-based conservation storytelling in Southern California.
Coral Carson – Creative director and co-host of Planet People Podcast. With a background in art and animation, Coral proves you don’t need to be a scientist to make a conservation impact.






