The Mojave Desert at sunset

Episode #215 Show Notes

Life Overlooked: Protecting California’s Mojave Desert with Natalie Cibel & Coral Carson

January 6, 2026

Headshot photo of Natalie Cibel
Natalie CibelWildlife biologist & Co-host of the Planet People Podcast
Headshot photo of Natalie Cibel
Coral Carson
Creative director, Co-host of Planet People Podcast

About Episode #215

In this special in-betweenersode, Brooke explores the Mojave Desert with Natalie and Coral from Planet People Podcast. Discover why California’s “desert heart” is one of North America’s most biodiverse ecosystems, the surprising Raven-Tortoise-Human conflict, the complex relationship between renewable energy and conservation, and inspiring wins like the Chuckwalla National Monument and Western Joshua Tree Conservation Act.

What You’ll Learn

  • Why the Mojave Desert is a critical carbon sink fighting climate change
  • How closing dumpster lids saves desert tortoises from raven predation
  • The hidden costs of solar farm expansion on pristine desert habitat
  • Innovative solutions: laser technology, captive breeding programs, and rewilding initiatives
  • Why “killing your lawn” creates wildlife corridors in your own backyard
  • How to apply desert conservation lessons to your local community

Key Timestamps

  • [00:00] Introduction and guest backgrounds
  • [03:25] Desert Ecology 101: Why the Mojave matters
  • [08:15] Biggest threats facing the desert today
  • [10:30] The Raven-Tortoise-Human conflict explained
  • [20:00] Renewable energy vs. habitat conservation
  • [25:40] Recreation, off-roading, and land management
  • [31:20] The Kill Your Lawn rewilding movement
  • [33:20] Bright spots: Captive breeding and reintroduction
  • [36:25] Chuckwalla National Monument and Joshua Tree Conservation Act
  • [40:45] Key takeaways and how to take action

Take Action

  • Secure trash and close dumpster lids to reduce wildlife conflicts
  • Stay on designated trails when visiting desert areas
  • Consider replacing your lawn with native plants
  • Support Mojave Desert Land Trust and Living Desert Zoo
  • Look for conservation opportunities in your own backyard

Meet the Guests

Natalie Cibel – Wildlife biologist, Mojave Desert tortoise specialist, and founder of Planet People Podcast, a platform for community-based conservation storytelling in Southern California.

Coral Carson – Creative director and co-host of Planet People Podcast. With a background in art and animation, Coral proves you don’t need to be a scientist to make a conservation impact.

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